any garunteed systemes or are they all a fail

[paulpat]

hi guys i'm new to this forum and what a great forum it is.
Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion that u cannot have a system that can beat the casinos.I have tried numerous times on betting on red or black (double up) and the 1 where u bet on 1-12 and so on.I think i have lost around 500 quid all in trying these but there surely has to be 1 system out there where u can beat them by betting on football horse racing or anykinds of gambling.If any one has a anything they would like to share i would be very interested as i would like to get my 500 quid back and maybe try to win even more,many thanks paul

[KasinoKing]

Why do casinos exist?
To make money for the owners,of course! (Same as ANY business in this world).
So do you really think they would offer any game if there was a system to beat it?
All casino games make money for the house due to just one thing - mathematics.
They way they are designed means the casino will profit long term, no matter what the players do. Yes, you can have short term wins, maybe even medium-term - but in the long run 2+2 = 4 & you can't change that.
The only way to win consistently from online casinos is using the bonuses they throw around - and even then you need to be careful because only some are good value for the player, and the rest are shyte.

Good luck!
KK

[aaron1005]

There is no succesful system to be on honest.
If you bet on red or black 100 times and 70 times you get it right, then good for you, but I can assure you that the casino will be making it's money back + VAT on other people's losing bets!

I only find the succesful system is that if you have lots of money because you can bet big, but then again the losses are massive if you lose on that one number you don't cover!

[Drewas]

Dont know about guaranteed but a 'system' thats worked for me so far I think is called the 9 to 5?

Similar to martingale you spin to getyour starting point and when 5 spins have passed with the ball not landing on either 1-12, 13-24 or 25-32 then thats your starting 12.

Then bet 1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31,47,70,105 untill you win.

Like I say its basically the Martingale just with reduced bank roll behind you.

Its scalable in that you can do 10,20,30,50 pence or pounds and it still seems to work.

I made 900 in three weeks using it starting betting 10p a go and ending on £10 a go in three casinos. In that time I had three days when I lost 9 spins and I quit betting and returned the following day.

I am a newb so no doubt ive just had beginners luck, but like I say its working at the moment.

[John1986]

There is no winning systems out there. Don't listen to anyone. They might start out well but in the end it will bite you in the bum.

[skyrunner]

the above post from John1086 is right ! unfortunate but true .. id like someone to prove me wrong .. but it cant be done. Of course you can win a little in the short term if luck is with you, but if you keep playing .. sooner or later .. usually sooner, the casino odds will quickly take it all back again and more .. whichever way you try to cut it.

Why ? its simple. the odds are a gaurantee that you will always loose more than you win ( particularly with matingale and progressive betting systems ) .. only exception .. occasional short term lucky streaks. Probability doesnt count. The wheel truly has no memory, so anything can happen. Patterns don't work. Absences of something do not increase the odds that it will appear. Its truly random. Unfavourable odds take care of the rest. For instance we would all win every time, playing 2 out of the 3 dozens that are available, or two out of the 3 columns that are available .. but the way it is, loosing two units for a loss, and gaining only one unit for a win.. is a disadvantage in the odds you cannot overcome, even more so, when you factor in the zeroes. The casinos have it won before we even begin.

for example

waiting for one of the dozens to not appear for 5 times or seven times ..and then entering using progressive betting until you win ..will work only work for a short time. Ive seen one of the dozens go to sleep plenty of times for 12, 15, 18 spins. You only have to be wrong once to loose everything youve worked hard to gain, over weeks and weeks.

Suppose you wait until a particular dozen does not appear for seven times, then you enter on the 8th spin, suppose your dozen does not appear on spins 9, 10 or 11 either .. by spin 12 if you bet again using Martingale progressive betting, on the 12th spin your risking 31 times your original bet. That means you have to win 31 times in a row after that, just to get back to square. If you think your going to bet 31 times to get back to zero, before you get hit again with another run of 12 against you ..think again .. and if you do get hit again, you'll be down 62 times your original bet! Don't even start to go down that road.

re above post .. if we cant go down that road .. what road can we go down ?
none .. zilch .. zero .. there is no way to win.
The casinos have it all sown up, before we even begin .. ( see above 3 posts for reasons why )

[PERIPHERAL]

There are strategies that beat casinos,and if
you have not the patience,time to be there every night,
and large BR----well juast don't waste your time.
I'm beatting it for 30 years constantly and was never banned
from casino.The strategy?????Law of balance my friends.
Very simple and true.Good hunt.

[shmeigle]

i know of a way 2 beat the system(roullette).
there is only 1 way.
its already been mentioned. when a dozen or column has not come for 5/6 spins start betting on it.
i have tried this live and online.
online i have lost over £500. if im chasing 3rd dozen, numbers like 7/3/11/13 always come. i lost my whole bankroll in such circumstances.
i think 1 doz didnt come in 19 spins.
the same happened to me live. i think it went 16 spins. very very unlucky but it can happen.
the system is guaranteed to work on a table with no maximum and with unlimited funds.
without such, its very tricky.
casino's i go to have maximum bets per number of around £50 straight up on a number. and about 3-500 on a dozen. these are 50p minimum tables.
so you could cover a dozen for £1. 2x50p. each 50p covering two streets.
it the equivalent of £1 on a dozen.
1st bet = £1 spent £1 to win 3
2nd bet = £2 spent £3 to win 6
3rd bet = £4 spent £7 to win 12
4th bet = £8 spent 15 to win 24
5 = 16 31 45
6 = 32 63 96
7 = 64 127 192
8 = 128 255 378
9 = 256 511 768
10 = 512 1023 1536
11 = 1024 2045 3072
12 = 2048 4093 6144
13 = 4096 8189 12388.

so if you have started chasing on the 5th or 6th spin 13 bets later puts you at the most 19 spins in.
it is possible to still not have hit your dozen.
not very likely but possible.
if you stop chasing 7 or 8 spins in you down bout £300.
after this stage its do or die. you quit you loose. so you have to have the bankroll and mates around to help. if your bets are at the table max you need other ppl there to bet as well. you could max out each number in your dozen, each street, each split, and you might still need 2/3 other people doing the same to keep up the doubling. eventually your dozen will come. it has to.
will you still be there chasing it when it does?

[KasinoKing]

the system is guaranteed to work on a table with no maximum and with unlimited funds.
without such, its very tricky.

A minor snaglett, do you not think?

KK

[shmeigle]

i think i have just cracked this.