Roulette- why you can't ever constantly win.

[jjh]

OK, I've been looking at playing roulette for a couple of days, and I think this example will show how you cannot ever make a constant profit playing this game.

Say you wait and watch ten spins and wait for 10 numbers to come in- now you bet on every number that has not came in so far- may seem a good strategy cos surely the same number cannot come in more than twice in another 5 goes? Wrong, the same number has every chance once the betting comences- I played on a practise table and the number 7 came in 3 times within 10 goes, so maybe go for betting on the same number. Wrong, because you may then get 20 completely different numbers in a row and the first system would have worked.

The above point is a very simple system but highlights a very important point, it is imposible to know what number or colour is going to come in- even if you try and follow a much more complicated and thought out system, they will always fail because a roulette table is never going to play the same as it did in the last 10 goes.

If anyone can actually claim to win constantly at roulette, I'd love to hear from them?

Of course, with all successful systems, they provide profit over a given time- you can go days with a losing streak, but good systems pull thorugh and show profit at the end of the month. So, can anyone claim to use a successful system for roulette?

I think perhaps the only system that may provide some profit is backing red if red came in last. I know that there is no memory on a roulette table, but one thing that seems to happen a lot is you see 'streaks' of the same colour. There is a 50/50 chance of each colour and say after 1,000 goes, the actual number of reds and blacks will be roughly the same down to stats, but they will not be in a constant order of red - black - red - black - red - black and so on- that is too perfect in my opinion. Yet, this can't be practised on online tables cos they are computerised anyway, the number or colour is already predicted before it even comes in.

I'd like to try the system but I reckon you'd need at least 100 worth of goes at level stakes to see if any constant profit could be made.

Anyone with any thoughts or experience are welcome to post- i'm interested in what people think!

jjh

P.S, I'm gonna record 100 worth of goes on a online site anyway just to se what happens, but it would be best doing it in a proper casino.

[Justanewone]

jjh,

I play roulette alot and I'll give you my famous quote: "Pick a Number - 7 say - theoretically it could come out 1 billion times in a row, say if a wheel were to spin constantly". Just change number 7 to red black or anything and its true - U talking about bookies, online or casinos - casinos are better as Croupiers have one flaw - human error.

Dave

[jjh]

jjh,

I play roulette alot and I'll give you my famous quote: "Pick a Number - 7 say - theoretically it could come out 1 billion times in a row, say if a wheel were to spin constantly". Just change number 7 to red black or anything and its true - U talking about bookies, online or casinos - casinos are better as Croupiers have one flaw - human error.

Dave

Do you make regular profit on the tables Dave?

[Justanewone]

Havent been to a casino this year yet, I I tend to get far too greedy, FOBT's are where I play alot now, and make a good profit once in a while, the key strategy I use is really to set yourself a limit of how much your willing to risk and what your target to make is, mine is usually 20 in, which I dont mind loosing and I aim to double it to 40, anything on top is a bonus.

[Soulseeker]

There is a decent 125 pg FREE mathematical and statistical analysis guide out there, but thanks to idiotic forum rules I can not post the link to it.

I will not bother posting here anymore, because eventually when it comes to roulette it's always the same questions that pop up, and everything you need to know can be found in the free guide, especially why you can not win playing roulette.

However search on Google for 'John Solitude's Roulette Fact and Fiction guide' and you should find it and you can download it for free.

[John Holmes' Stunt C**K]

Sorry JJH, but there is no system out there where you "beat the table". I will happily dis-prove anyone who says there is a system where you can make a profit long-term.

The single point you need to understand in Roulette is that each spin of the wheel is a random spin, unrelated the any previous spins.

Many people watch the table, and bet big at certain times, here's an example where most people are making assumptions that are false.

The odds of 3 red numbers coming in succession are:

0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.125 or 1 in 8

So, if 2 reds come in, the chances of a 3rd red would appear to be 1 in 8. Many people would now bet big on black, believing the odds were with them. This is not true.

Each spin is unrelated to any previous spins, and so the probability of a black number will always be 18/37 or 48% ish, regardless of what went before.

You cannot beat the Roulette table!!

[manchestermurph@fsmail.ne]

yes i agree but you get some lucky sod that does get it all the time,who remembers that guy who done the tv program[going a bit off track here, but who cares] he sold everything and went to the casino and i think he won cant remember though if it was black or red he bet

[kidgloves]

There is a decent 125 pg FREE mathematical and statistical analysis guide out there, but thanks to idiotic forum rules I can not post the link to it.

I will not bother posting here anymore, because eventually when it comes to roulette it's always the same questions that pop up

The 'idiotic' rules as you put it prevent the regular uses having to trawl through spam from freeloaders.
It is obvious you have a 'serious' link and point to make, and this is perhaps where the rules don't work so well but the childish way in which you have vented your frustration just undermines the serious point you are trying to make. Is it not a little pointless writing "I will not bother posting here anymore" when it's only your first post? It's not like we are going to miss you is it? You obviously belong to 'higher' forums. Good luck and have a nice day now.

[stebiz]

Last year I thought I had this system sussed. Guess you have heard that before. What I did was simply start off online with 10p on red. Then if it didn't come in I doubled it to 20p then 40p then 80p then £1.60 etc. On one occasion I was upto over £400 and still a red hadn't come in. Then the house wouldn't let me double anymore. Is this online roulette fixed in some way?? Has anybody ever been at a casino and tried this method. Incidentally NOT RECOMMENDED. LOST A LOT OF MONEY.

Regards
Stebiz

[RedHot]

Last year I thought I had this system sussed. Guess you have heard that before. What I did was simply start off online with 10p on red. Then if it didn't come in I doubled it to 20p then 40p then 80p then £1.60 etc. On one occasion I was upto over £400 and still a red hadn't come in. Then the house wouldn't let me double anymore. Is this online roulette fixed in some way?? Has anybody ever been at a casino and tried this method. Incidentally NOT RECOMMENDED. LOST A LOT OF MONEY.

Regards
Stebiz

Silly, Silly, I thought everybody new you could lose big amounts of money using that 'system'