The SnG grind begins

[CitrusSR]

Have you tried the Matrix sit n gos on Full Tilt? They're a good way to get used to multitabling

[sdot1989]

I 8 tabled for a bit, 4 sng's and 4 micro cash, mainly because I was getting impatient and playing stupid hands so I htought it may be a good way to stop doing that but when you lose a couple buy inson cash and dont cash in any of the sng's your playing its not possible with a small BR. Now I just play 2 sng's, I dont get too bored in the early levels but i dont just have to wait for premiums.

How did the $6 go? I image the play to be weak all the way up to the $10 level where I expect a few small time grinders to be multitabling alot and the games will get tougher.

Rush Poker is just madness, I think if you use PT3 or HEM you could exploit alot of players easilly and I would image thats what alot of cash grinders are doing now. The games seem to have two different types of players, the ones who wait for the premium hands and bet big and the players who raise any two pre flop stealing the blinds if its folded to them.

@ Citrus, I tried the Matrix games I think only once or twice, good way to get used to multitabling but no good for trying to make profit, there fun if you have a small BR and want to play a lot of hands for little money.

[CitrusSR]

@ Citrus, I tried the Matrix games I think only once or twice, good way to get used to multitabling but no good for trying to make profit, there fun if you have a small BR and want to play a lot of hands for little money.

Yeah, they are good for minimising losses. But as you said you're minimising your profit too.

Unless obviously you come first in all 4 then you get the whole prize pool, I played a $6 6 handed one once and the other players couldn't multitable, I ended up coming 1st in the first three, got down to heads up in the last one and lost to some ghey bad beat

[glynnoo]

$6 was ok, they only have turbo 18-mans tho...so just becomes a shove fest everyone with less than 7 BB.Bit of a joke structure, they need something inbetween Turbo and Normal i think...Hows the grind going?! I went up to $5 had a bit of success then had a few shots at $10 which went pretty well, $10 is pretty easy i would say just TAG and u normally cash with a bit of luck on your side.Really struggle with 45-man $10 tho, have had no success with it seem to suffer more bad beats there then anywhere else.Anyways had a go at a $20 9-man and that was so soft it was rediculous, people calling bottom pair to my trips...Long story short won that and Bankroll is now $270. So dont know weather to continue grinding at $5 or move up to $10...think I need a bit of a time out been a pretty steep increase from $20 up to $270....

U moved up to $5?! How u finding it?! This is where I need strong bankroll mnagement now, so dont donk it off.

[sdot1989]

I play live thursday nights and fridays when I'm not going out so I havent played online in the last few days. Sounds like youv had a very nice couple days though, well done. Personally I'd grind the $5 while taking a few shots at some $10 say everytime you make $20 profit play one $10 and bulid from there. Were you playing late night or something for the games to be that soft? I want to put some good time in on the weekends when people are just sitting around bored getting drunk, although that could just be more tilting.

Where abouts do you live? Do you ever play live?

[Barnfather]

I've found that - to me - STTs are the most consistently profitable form of tournament poker - partly because, from a strategy perspective at least, they are almost a solved game. Not immune from downswings of course....

But I found it all a bit slow until I really started playing with multitabling. I always used to play 2 tables, but found myself playing way too many hands and basically gambling too much. Playing four took a bit of getting used to, but after a while it just seems normal. Just bought a 24" monitor and have had a few six table sessions which can get a bit fast and furious once you get short handed but certainly force you to keep your focus and not tilt when you get sucked out on.

[sdot1989]

Just had a go at trying post a graph lets see if it works.... http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/449/2sngmarch.png

Thats for this month so far, only 23 games which is tiny but aleast its going in the right direction. I need to get 4 tables going at once like Barnfather said, I seem to be getting into the money with the chip lead, I think my aggression on the bubble pisses people off and by the time they get a hand and play back their normally short stacked and I have to call and luckily have been sucking out pretty good on a few occasions. Doesnt always work though, but i would rather bubble than go into 3 handed with a tiny stack and stand no chance on winning.

[Barnfather]

I would rather get into the top three (making a profit) and then take a few shots to get heads-up - by which time it is usually a complete crap shoot.

If you were talking about a large field MTT then I agree about bubbling, as you really want to chip up and gun for the final table. In STT SnGs that isn't the case as unless you have a massive chip advantage HU, it really doesn't make that much difference

[sdot1989]

When I say aggressive I dont mean I'm raising stupidly with any two and pot commiting myself against short stacks, its more 2.5x raise fold to any all in and c bet any scare cards on the flop if im flat called, easilly expoitable but Im not giving too much credit to players at this level. Also you have to take into account times i actually do have hands.

I dont like coming third and gettin $3.60, I like to come top two otherwise i might as well just be playing dons at a higher BI. What your sayings right that its about making a profit rather than winning but its just my mentality to go for the win. Whats a good ROI% to aim for?

[Barnfather]

i've heard it said that really good SNG players average out at about 20% ROI over time