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    Angry Bad Beat - first hand of the game

    Entered a $50 tourney earlier tonight.. Here's the results, pasted directly from the log...

    I think I should have gone all-in before the river was shown, where I must have had the strongest hand. Instead I stupidly tried to squeeze a little more out by waiting until the river, and ended up giving my opponent the Full House that beat me in the end...

    Anyone have any views on where I went wrong!

    (Mango99 is my poker name at William Hill)..

    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Mango99 [9d Ad]
    tyrion: folds
    Panag1210: calls 20
    Mango99: calls 20
    laffy: calls 20
    pokerman: folds
    TheRasher: folds
    dallas#1: calls 20
    Theangler: folds
    Robbridge: calls 10
    jolanda: checks

    ----- FLOP ----- [7d As 5d]
    Robbridge: checks
    jolanda: checks
    Panag1210: bets 60
    Mango99: calls 60
    laffy: calls 60
    dallas#1: folds
    Robbridge: folds
    jolanda: folds

    ----- TURN ----- [7d As 5d][Td]
    Panag1210: bets 60
    Mango99: raises to 120
    laffy: folds
    Panag1210: calls 60

    ----- RIVER ----- [7d As 5d Td][7h]
    Panag1210: bets 1300 and is all-in
    Mango99: calls 1300 and is all-in

    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    Panag1210: shows [7s Ac] (A Full House, Sevens full of Aces)
    Mango99: shows [9d Ad] (A Flush, Ace high)
    Panag1210 collected 3140 from Main pot

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    I duno. This is a tough one.

    On the flop he acted first, not a huge bet but his early position suggests confidence in his hand so I’d have put him on aces maybe with a good kicker. Even so your ace and nut flush draw gave you the odds to call it.

    The bend is a tough decision. At first I agreed with you that a larger raise would have been better, but now I’m not so sure. I think maybe you did play it right. The nut flush was a very strong hand and to be honest I think slow playing it to extract the small calls was the most profitable thing to do (the chance of him making the full house was small enough to risk).

    The 7 on the river and his all-in was a real kick in the teeth. When you put it together with the raise on the flop it suggests he made a pair of 7’s and now has trip 7s, but he wouldn’t have called your bet on the bend if he had just a pair of 7’s. Since the bend was a 10 and if you paired that alone (the weakest hand your bet could have represented) you’d have him beat. So a full house was a distinct possibility.

    However calling the all in might not have been a mistake. The mental mapping above is all very well but it’s often caused me to make mistakes when against poor players who aren’t thinking this way. E.g. He could have been a crazy man playing pocket 6’s and just saw the 7 as making him two pair

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    Default That's how the game goes

    I agree, although the full house was a possibility, he could have been sitting with a flush that you'd have beat. It was also unlucky that this was the first hand so you probably had no previous to go on. I probably would have gone bust with your hand too.

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