Do anyone here really win any thing through gambling?

[DannyC]

Nicely put James, regardless of whether or not 'systems' win or lose, they shouldnt be followed, and hopefully I shouldnt have to spell out why.

KasinoKing while you seem to be a decent bloke on these forums, and I never have a problem with the fact your putting a link to your website everywhere, I just hope that you never 'influence' other members or guests on this or any other forum, or delude the fact that your 'methods' work, are percentagable (word?) or accurate based only on your given times/dates.

My uncle was a bad gambler, and I dont believe in influencing false facts, which im not imposing you are Kasino, IMHO like whats stated on your website isn't a system, I think the word we should be looking at is experience(s)

[andrewxr]

usualy, casino offers first deposit bonus, but we cann't get bonus money on our NETeller account(or other payment sistem). We must play at casino. For ex.

Regular Players must playthrough the bonus 30 times before it is transferred into their cash balance.

for ex.

For example, on a 10 credit bonus, to meet the 30x playthrough requirement, the player may wager 300 credits

But we can get your money at any time.

[DannyC]

The casino offers are one of the biggest cruds Ive EVER seen in my entire life. They advertise "We will double your signup amount" only to find out afterwards that you have to wager at least 30x your initial amount, so if you deposited £25 onto an online casino, and got £25 bonus you would have to wager at least £750 just to have the chance to withdraw any balance you have.

Not at all worth it. If your gonna gamble online, just signup with what you can afford, forget the bonuses (unless its the odd one where there are NO stipulations as to withdrawing) and there is the odd one or two out there

[KasinoKing]

This isn't a personal attack on you but this really isn't anything to be proud of and I don't see how you can promote your own personal casino gaming methods based on these stats....

If you enjoy it and see the profit as a bonus then good luck to you, but reading your site it sounds like you are trying to promote what you have done as a gambling triumph that others should be looking to achieve.

Any thoughts?

You made some very good points in your post, and I truly welcome the feedback as I don't get very much!

Your last paragraph indeed does sum up my 'achievements' and the way I view my gambling. I got hooked on fruities at a very early age and wasted more money on them than I like to admit (£30,000+ over 20-ish years is probably a conservative figure). I later moved on to also doing horses, then Bricks & Mortar casinos, and finally online casinos.
I have never been a high-roller or got into really serious debt but I was wasting a stupid amount of money compared to my average income.

I did know I had a problem and I had to stop wasting money like I was, so I made a conscious attempt to become a 'bonus hunter' (in May 2001). This proved to be a turning point for me as I discovered with a bit self control it was possible to make frequent profit online. I suppose at first I viewed it as a 'vendetta' against the gambling providers - an attempt to get my money back!

As time went by I stopped being so ruthless (e.g. not just playing low-edge games like BlackJack to clear bonuses) and dabbled with other games, like slots.

You're spot on that my income/hour does sound pretty pathetic but I am more than happy with it. Before I started what I'm doing now I was wasting many £1,000's per year - frittering it away really. Now I am gaining a similar amount instead.

I get the best of both worlds - I satisfy my hunger for gambling and I make money. I know a lot of gamblers take it very seriously and it can cause stress and distress, but I honestly do play with a smile on my face. Why shouldn't I - my gambling has been entirely self-funding since mid-2001 and I actually have some savings in the bank for the first time ever in my whole life!

Nicely put James, regardless of whether or not 'systems' win or lose, they shouldn't be followed, and hopefully I shouldn't have to spell out why.

KasinoKing while you seem to be a decent bloke on these forums, and I never have a problem with the fact your putting a link to your website everywhere, I just hope that you never 'influence' other members or guests on this or any other forum, or delude the fact that your 'methods' work, are percentagable (word?) or accurate based only on your given times/dates.

My uncle was a bad gambler, and I dont believe in influencing false facts, which im not imposing you are Kasino, IMHO like whats stated on your website isn't a system, I think the word we should be looking at is experience(s)

Also correct.
My site started off more as a blog really, and I only launched it a year ago after having been a frequent online gambler for nearly 5-years.

My aim was to show people that it is possible to win online, and to guide them to only the reputable casinos so they hopefully wont get ripped off.
Of course my site includes affiliate links to the casinos - but I will not promote any 'dodgy', places no matter how big their incentives are.

I know there is no way to prove it to you, but everything on my site is truthful, including my personal casino results. Do you seriously think anyone would be sad enough to sit down & make all that up! :shock:
Call it 'system' or 'experience' or anything you like, but for me it does work. It's not like I'm trying to sell anything - all my guides are free to view by anyone.

Whether my site 'influences' others to try to achieve the same as me is not something I've really thought about. We are all adults here, I'm sure people who read it can make up their own minds.

Thanks to both of you for the feedback - it is always welcome, good or bad!

Now - I must go off & play some slots...

[KasinoKing]

The casino offers are one of the biggest cruds Ive EVER seen in my entire life. They advertise "We will double your signup amount" only to find out afterwards that you have to wager at least 30x your initial amount, so if you deposited £25 onto an online casino, and got £25 bonus you would have to wager at least £750 just to have the chance to withdraw any balance you have.

Nothing personal, but I'm a little surprised at this post, as I assumed you knew quite a bit about online gambling.

Assuming for a moment that BlackJack wagering was allowed, and assuming 1% house edge (that's actually very high - most Blackjack variations are less than that):-

Loss = £750 x 1% (0.01) = £7.50 lost in meeting the WR = £17.50 profit.

Many 'bonus abusers' use this method to make small profits from generous bonuses where BJ play is allowed. Not my style, I might add!
As in my previous post, I play more slots than cards these days - you'll never win $289 from a $1.50 bet playing Blackjack....

[DannyC]

Nothing personal, but I'm a little surprised at this post, as I assumed you knew quite a bit about online gambling.

Assuming for a moment that BlackJack wagering was allowed, and assuming 1% house edge (that's actually very high - most Blackjack variations are less than that):-

Loss = £750 x 1% (0.01) = £7.50 lost in meeting the WR = £17.50 profit.

Many 'bonus abusers' use this method to make small profits from generous bonuses where BJ play is allowed. Not my style, I might add!
As in my previous post, I play more slots than cards these days - you'll never win $289 from a $1.50 bet playing Blackjack....

I'd hate to quote your entire post, but again like I said in the previous posts im only posting experience. To follow up your comment you said 'assuming' you could wager on BJ, from my experiences in the past with quite a few casinos the wager was only void on certain games...

[a1056688]

Nothing but 100% respect for your honest reply. Like I said, I wasn't attacking your personally and your explanation and reasoning behind your exploits are valid and understandable.

If you are enjoying it and no longer throwing fortunes away then I wish you the very best of luck.

[beatdabookie]

yep, good luck kk.
i have to admit i find it strange to take on board that you can play this games for so long. but i would like to add that i spend about 30 mins picking out 3 or 4 hourses. one word of advice to anyone looking to pick out some winners is obviously that patience is needed but above that my main mantra is dont over study!
i see it all the time, you get these old geezers in the bookies all day and night studying the form on the hourses, i have never known these people to do well.i have friends who gamble on hourses, they tend to spend too long looking at the weights and times and trying to calculate what times with what weight is the best. this is just an example of over studying. so scope out a short list of who you think its out of from the form and go with your instincts.i do and at the end of the month i come out usually well on top
(sorry 4 the brag>

-bring your bookie to the slaughter-

[jjh]

Nothing but 100% respect for your honest reply. Like I said, I wasn't attacking your personally and your explanation and reasoning behind your exploits are valid and understandable.

If you are enjoying it and no longer throwing fortunes away then I wish you the very best of luck.

Nice one James, I've got to agree with you there and respect to KK for an honest post.

Kasino King, I've been on the same road as you it sounds, started off losing a lot and WASTING a lot of money over a load of gambling mediums and realised it had to stop.

As you agree, $21,000 isn't much over 5 years, but it is still nice to be receiving back after the money you wasted, and as long as you enjoy it, it is a nice side income in anyone's books. Plus, as long as you aren't losing money, then that is the most important thing.

I take horse racing quite seriously now (It is all about finding value and once you've cracked that, discilplined betting will show profit in the long term) and can honestly say I've won a lot more than I have lost since around 2004 onwards but I'll admit I lost a lot at first and the biggest factor is money management as you say.

I understand you still have to work- but it is nice being able to add a little extra to your pay check each month. I see the point about time invested vs profits but I enjoy the challenge of studying the races each day and £600 to £1,400 a month (£1,400 is my best month so far, August 2006 ) is a very welcome addition to my monthly pay for doing something I enjoy.

[KasinoKing]

I understand you still have to work- but it is nice being able to add a little extra to your pay check each month. I see the point about time invested vs profits but I enjoy the challenge of studying the races each day and £600 to £1,400 a month (£1,400 is my best month so far, August 2006 ) is a very welcome addition to my monthly pay for doing something I enjoy.

That's very good going - I'm jealous! :mrgreen:

One problem I had with horses, or any betting come to that, is that I seem to have this mental block which stops me placing any really big bets.
Even when I was doing my horse 'system' the biggest bet I ever placed was about £60 - and that sent shivers down my spine even though it was coming out of my 'float' of about £400 profit from earlier bets!
Online I rarely bet more than $10/hand at cards because I'm always scared of losing.

So in a way I'm not a very good gambler because I don't take any big risks, but maybe that's a good thing actually... Small risks, moderate profits, big smile!