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    Can Someone explain the "Super Fold" phenomenon? I've just finished playing in a $1,000 Freeroll tournament (finished 212th out of 414).

    After I got knocked out I observered a few tables for a while. I noticed that once a player with a large amount of chips gets to a table, every other player folds every single hand...

    Are they trying to hang on to the little amount of chips they have in the hope of a money-finish? :roll:

    Seems totally crazy to me.. People must have been folding AA, AK, KK and so on just to stay in the game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymagic
    Can Someone explain the "Super Fold" phenomenon? I've just finished playing in a $1,000 Freeroll tournament (finished 212th out of 414).

    After I got knocked out I observered a few tables for a while. I noticed that once a player with a large amount of chips gets to a table, every other player folds every single hand...

    Seems totally crazy to me.. People must have been folding AA, AK, KK and so on just to stay in the game...
    Can’t say I’ve ever experienced this myself although I can understand players being cautious of a new opponent with a significantly larger stack, since it suggests they have talent. But I would never fold AA because someone has more chips than me, the reverse in fact, I’d be glad there was a player who could call my all-in without fearing its size.

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymagic
    Are they trying to hang on to the little amount of chips they have in the hope of a money-finish? :roll:
    I assume it would depend how close you are to the money, but I can’t see how the logic works in the long run since if you sit still when your short stacked, the attrition of the antes will bust you before the people with more money and they can always use the same strategy against you.

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    Thanks FreeZey

    I think I know what causes the Super Fold now... I was playing on a table in a $1000 Freeroll tournament at a Prima Poker room, where it seemed only 3 of us where actually taking part.. All the others folded every single hand (unless they were big blind, in which case they folded every hand that went above the big blind).

    Basically, it seems that some players don't turn up for the tournament.. This means they get 30 seconds or so to place a bet before they are automatically folded (or checked if they are the big blind and nobody has raised).

    In the Microgaming Prima Poker Rooms if you time-out on more than 3 hands you are placed into a "Away from Table" mode. Normally when you aren't in a tournament you either leave the table or click "I am back".. But, on tournament play neither of these options is available, so the computer automatically folds each player who falls under the "Away from Table" mode..., And it folds them immediately, in a split second.. Hence the effect of a cascade of folding all occuring almost at once!

    I found to my great advantage that as there was only 3 real players on my table (including me), and 7 players that folded every turn, I could steal the blinds by simply placing a raise bet when the other 2 real players folded. This caused the other "away" players to fold automatically, and give me both blinds :P

    Luckily, neither of the other 2 real players seemed to notice I was doing this, and I managed to rank my chips up from 4,000 to over 12,000 by reducing every other players chips from 1,000 to near to nothing by stealing their blinds, slowly but surely....

    Of course there were some hands that I lost to the other 2 real players, and some I won against them, but the vast majority of the chips were coming from stolen blinds...

    After an hour or so, I was number 5 in the whole tournament with only 170 or so left out of the initial 600 entrants..

    Unfortunately, I was then moved tables, and all the other 9 players on the new table I joined seemed to be real... I quickly lost the huge amount of chips I'd collected by placing a couple of silly all-in bets..

    Still, it was fun while it lasted

    [quote="FreeZey"]
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymagic
    Can Someone explain the "Super Fold" phenomenon? I've just finished playing in a $1,000 Freeroll tournament (finished 212th out of 414).

    After I got knocked out I observered a few tables for a while. I noticed that once a player with a large amount of chips gets to a table, every other player folds every single hand...

    Seems totally crazy to me.. People must have been folding AA, AK, KK and so on just to stay in the game...
    Can’t say I’ve ever experienced this myself although I can understand players being cautious of a new opponent with a significantly larger stack, since it suggests they have talent. But I would never fold AA because someone has more chips than me, the reverse in fact, I’d be glad there was a player who could call my all-in without fearing its size.

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